I HAVE USED HYPERDROL, MASS FX AND RETAIN WITH GOOD SUCCESS. PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE NON-HORMONAL PRODUCTS ARE NOT STEROIDS OR PH'S AND HAVE VERY LITTLE EFFECT AS A STAND ALONE. THAT IS WHY THE MANUFACTURES RECOMMEND STACKS. EVEN WHEN STACKED THEY WILL NOT WORK AS WELL AS A PH OR STEROID. IF USED PROPERLY THEY DO WORK ALBEIT MUCH SLOWER THAN PH'S BUT ALSO THEY ARE MUCH SAFER. |